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(@Anonymous 1978)
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Hi i am a new member looking for radio rentals workshop manual model 410

 
Posted : 08/07/2023 4:45 pm
sideband
(@sideband)
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Hi,

May I draw your attention to this statement in the Data Library section:

As before, this service is only open to actively participating members with library access.

This is to ensure that the data is not misused. We have found in the past that new members may ask for data and then disappear without trace. The service is a privilege, not a rite and we expect members to actively participate in the forums and other sections before being allowed access to the Data Library. It takes considerable time and effort to scan manuals which sometimes run into many tens of pages, let alone the cost of purchase.

Please consider this before asking for service information as a first post. An introduction about yourself, whether you are in the trade or have been or just an enthusiast is a good start.

You can be granted library access after 5 post I believe at the discretion of the administrator.

Thank you.

Please read rule #5 here.

 
Posted : 08/07/2023 7:20 pm
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crustytv
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Agree with the above.

Ron, I've moved your wanted request to the black and white section of the forum, and made it a new thread about the TV you have on the bench, namely the RR 410.

Now, how about you tell us a little about yourself and your TV? Where you acquired it, what made you acquire it, what you have done thus far to the TV. What your level of experience is, what tools you have to accomplish the repair job, you get the idea.

By the way, we have members of all ages, from 20 thru to 80+ with all manner of experience and inexperience, professionals, seasoned amateurs and novices, all rubbing along together. 👍 

After making 5 posts, you'll be able to use the pm system, (private messaging system) attach links, and most importantly, you'll be able to upload photos of the TV, which I can assure you we'd all like to see. All the above will help enormously with demonstrating your willingness to participate and become part of our Radio/TV forum, and not just skedaddling off once you have the data in your hands. So get posting and before you know it you'll have what you need.

Back to the TV, Radio Rentals TV's just don't turn up, so your thread will be a unique feature. In fact, I don't believe in the 12-years this site has been running, that a 405-line RR TV has ever been covered, I could be wrong. Early Radio Rentals TV data is equally rare as chicken teeth and rocking horse poop 😉 I do have the circuit diagram & technical info sheet from the Technical centre located in Wembley. It covers the 400-series which includes models 402,404,406,408 & 410.  The 410 according to the data, is a 21" Console TV **(using AW53-80 CRT) console, has FM radio and twin speakers, can you confirm this? I believe the TV dates from about 1958. Anyway, save all the info for your new thread.

 

**I think I've a NOS AW53-80 tucked away in the loft, been too scared to move it, it's been there over 13-years.

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Posted : 09/07/2023 8:45 am
Forum 142
(@Anonymous 1978)
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Hi it looks like i made a big mistake on asking for the manual for radio rentals 410, did not realize these rules were in place, i am a 77 year old, only in the last 3 years have i had any interest in 405 tv's before that i got into radio's and i think i own around 30 at the moment with about 26 i managed to restore to good working condition, my old dad was a radio and tv engineer in his day, and he showed me quite a few things in his time, like testing resistors caps and the like, taught me to use a soldering iron, changed many tv tubes, i remember the days when you could buy new or get a regunned tube, he showed me a lot of safety tricks as well like how to discharge the tube before putting my grubby little fingers near it, discharge electrolytics, check the polarity on the mains, for fear of a live chassis, so all this never left my mind and wish he was still around now,. he was a wizzkid on the old tv's, i remember him struggling to carry a 21 inch pye continental that he had bought, cor what a weight that thing was, but there we have it getting into tv's was not too much of a jump from radio's for me and have rebuilt around 7 now all working fine, but just picked up this monster radio rentals set 21 inch, found i could not lift it so my daughter managed to give me a lift, already been at it changed quite a few caps, but see that it has been worked on many moons ago, anyway the old set had been kept inside a house for many years, so nice and dry, the wiring is very good with no rot, so much easier than some of my other sets, as i have spent a lot of time replacing rotted wiring in some of them, anyway fired her up slowly on the variac and was rewarded with first light, oh and collapsed frame but soon rectified that with a nice new valve pcl82 i think it was, but now need to delve back in and get the rf chassis up to scratch as it is very weak with a hedgehog plugged in, got to give it a week before i get the old nose back in as off on a weeks break, i do apoligise for asking for the manual and promise i wont do it again.

 
Posted : 09/07/2023 11:04 am
crustytv
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Posted by: @Anonymous

it looks like i made a big mistake on asking for the manual for radio rentals 410, did not realize these rules were in place

@welshman Not a big mistake, just a little one. 👍

Posted by: @Anonymous

i do apoligise for asking for the manual and promise i wont do it again.

Once you've shown you're here to join in, make new friends and share your journey repairing this TV, you're welcome to request all the data you need. Remember, if you get stuck, we've ex TV engineers plus many seasoned amateurs in our ranks who can all help and advise you. That's the great thing about VRAT. As Rich (sideband) already explained, we adopted this stance long ago due to some taking advantage. 

In case you've not found it, don't forget all the wealth of info, brochures, articles, stories and tips available on the main site via the Radios-TV link in the top menu. Adding comments to the numerous posts and pages on there, all go towards accumulating goodwill and intent.

For example; here's the Radio Rentals catalogue for the previous year's offerings in 1957, sadly just before your TV, nonetheless, still a good nostalgic read.

https://www.radios-tv.co.uk/1957-radio-rentals-catalogue/

Finally, a warm welcome to Radios-TV VRAT

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Posted : 09/07/2023 11:28 am
sideband
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Hi Ron,

We look forward to you getting your nose back in it when you return. It makes a change to see a much rarer set appear in these forums and you obviously have a good knowledge already to get the TV up to scratch. 

Have a good break and catch up on your return.

 
Posted : 09/07/2023 1:11 pm
crustytv
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The service data for the Radio Rentals 400-series chassis has now been scanned and is available via the temporary Data library holding area. Members with access, who might be interested to look over the circuit, can download it. Ron, all you have to do is get to that magic number of posts, and as Rich says, we all look forward to reading about its restoration and seeing some pics of the TV upon your return.

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Posted : 09/07/2023 2:30 pm
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