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crustytv
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Yesterday I received three new TV's for the collection. Before  I get into that firstly, many thanks go to John for giving them passage when he collected his own two new additions.  12-hours of driving is a phenomenal trek to do in one day. Secondly, my warm thanks to Neil for offering them up for sale and getting soaking wet, assisting John loading them into the car.

Now the TVs

Well you probably all know by now my main passion is Thorn and especially Ferguson. Also, for a long while, I've been after finding a Teletext TV to use with my IMOGen teletext generator. I've a couple of Teletext set-top boxes, but not a TV with text built in. So combining Thorn, Ferguson and Teletext, I decided long ago I would dearly love a 1982 Stereo TX, though finding one proved very difficult. A few years pass by, the planets align, I find Neil has two and is prepared to let them go, yipee!!

Set #1

You wait for one, then two come along, quite remarkable. The first is a 1982 22" Ferguson badged 37063 complete with original remote, but minus its stand. Luckily I had in stock a near perfect stand, the Ferguson now sits on that. Accompanying it underneath, a Ferguson 3V29, I really do want to find a 3V31 though.

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Set #2

The second Stereo TX is virtually identical, but is the rental version. To all intents and purposes still a 37063, but John informs me supplied via Radio Rentals, D|E|R etc, was known as the T6083, it also has a darker front. There was no remote nor stand for this one. I managed to find on e-bay one or two remotes though 🤣. Again no original stand with it or in stock, but I do have a couple of standard frame stands with teak cross-members in the stores, which will suffice. Currently, it's sitting on the stockroom bench, waiting to be moved into the display shop.

I much prefer the light grey finish to the front of the Ferguson, compared to the darker left and right of the rental version, just my personal preference.

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Set #3

Third and final set, I fancied something different from what I normally collect, and that is in the form of a 22" Bush BC6378A. It's the much rarer 'Arena' version, I'm not certain, but I think this must be around 1976/1977. Funny thing is, after exactly 10-years, the TV has come back home to the N.E. as originally it was a TV from Stan's collection.

It features an ultrasonic remote, though the remote is missing. I have some ultrasonic remotes in stock from the likes of Philips and Thorn, no idea, but do they all use the same frequency? The chassis is a T20A, which I'd not ever seen before, but upon opening up it looks very muck like the Z718 I have in my 1975 SABA T4610.

The Bush did not come with a stand, but I had in stock a lovely Chrome pedestal stand. I was saving this for the Bush CTV-1120, but thought for now I'd put the BC6378A on it, I may well end up just putting it on a standard Cross member frame stand, we shall see.

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I'll start individual repair threads in the appropriate sections for these TVs shortly, I'll also be getting back to the recalcitrant G6.

I've some more interesting items arriving shortly, some shop related and something winging its way from the United States which should be fun, for now that's it.

Hope that was of interest and if you got this far, thanks for reading.

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Topic starter Posted : 29/09/2021 11:58 am
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Whenever I see a T20, I think "check the 910 Ohm resistor"... 

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Posted : 29/09/2021 12:21 pm
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Posted by: @cathovisor

Whenever I see a T20, I think "check the 910 Ohm resistor"... 

I always think "Some so and so's pinched the tweaking stick" 

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Posted : 29/09/2021 2:19 pm
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I left the RBM dealership I worked for just before the Z178 appeared and have only seen a couple of T20s but the 910 ohm doesn’t ring any bells. I won’t give the game away in case it’s faulty in Cris’s set but one low value resistor sticks in my mind where the PSU would start up but not run. Think slightly along the lines of the Thorn 9800, took me a little while to suss it out.

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Posted by: @jayceebee

I won’t give the game away in case it’s faulty in Cris’s set but one low value resistor sticks in my mind where the PSU would start up but not run.

Would that be 5R8 the 1 Ohm small wire-wound resistor in series with the base of the line output transistor. I've read It corrodes and goes o/c or high resistance.

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Topic starter Posted : 29/09/2021 3:34 pm
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@crustytv 

The 1 ohm resistor was originally a half what carbon composition type. Never had it go O/C but it raised to around 10 ohms, alerted the switching waveform for the line output transistor and kept it switch on too long, the BU208? then failed. Only ever had it once, any set I repaired after that I checked the resistor, invariably it was high but not sufficient to damage the transistor. It was always replaced with something more suitable.

Later sets could have been W/W but I didn’t see any.

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The RBM looks like it is brand new. Very nice !

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Posted by: @crustytv

Would that be 5R8 the 1 Ohm small wire-wound resistor in series with the base of the line output transistor. I've read It corrodes and goes o/c or high resistance.

That’s the fella, wirewound which failed o/c. 👍 

So what faults did the 910ohm give?

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Posted : 29/09/2021 5:27 pm
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Posted by: @jayceebee

So what faults did the 910ohm give?

Picture Jitter?

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Topic starter Posted : 29/09/2021 5:40 pm
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Posted by: @pye625

The RBM looks like it is brand new. Very nice !

Most of the sets that came out of Stan's stable, normally are, I've never had a rough one. Neil has also done a sterling job storing it safely whilst in his care, likewise the two Stereo TXs, I'm over the moon with yesterdays haul.

 

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@crustytv Dead set.

 

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I have seen, but never worked upon a T20A. Aside from the above mentioned resistors and possibly reforming PSU electrolytics, I wonder if there are any additional special checks that need to be made before powering up a T20A?

It almost looks as if you could just fire it up and expect a perfect working set.... But we all know that looks can deceive.

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Posted by: @crustytv

The second Stereo TX is virtually identical, but is the rental version. To all intents and purposes still a 37063, but John informs me supplied via Radio Rentals, D|E|R etc, was known as the T6083, it also has a darker front.

It's actually a 6083M, checking with the Thorn Oracle (John), that means it was a Multibroadcast rental set. The badge had been removed, perhaps due to resale? Fortune has it that I have a stock of various badges, among them was a Multibroadcast one, it's now on the TV.

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Topic starter Posted : 30/09/2021 10:40 am
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@pye625 The T20/22 psu is a nightmare to repair.

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Posted : 30/09/2021 5:59 pm
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A nice little haul there Chris.

If you are looking for a 3V3, I may have one (not sure if it's a 3V31 0r 3V32 until I get home).

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Posted : 01/10/2021 7:48 am
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Very nice, I'll look forward to seeing some blog entries on these.

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Posted : 01/10/2021 10:19 pm
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The TX100 brings back good memories, had one as our daily for many years along with a Ferguson top loading ? stereo VCR which i don't recall the model.

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Posted : 02/10/2021 10:38 pm
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Sorry Stephen, they're TX10's and I might be wrong, but there were only front-loading Ferguson stereo (3V31/3V32) VCRs.

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Yes the Ferguson 3V31/32 were front loading machines, the 3V32 being the LP version, I liked the 3V32, same mechanism as the very reliable and well built 3V23 but with the advantage (?) of LP, as tapes were expensive then, ideal for watch and wipe.

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Posted by: @freya

.. had one as our daily for many years along with a Ferguson top loading ? stereo VCR which i don't recall the model.

There was a top loading linear stereo model but never released as a Ferguson as far as I’m aware. This was the Thorn rental model 8940 broadly based on the Ferguson 3V30. 

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