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New Telly Arrival month: Fergy 3710, Fergy 3712, Bush CTV 1120 & Beovision 3200-SJ

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This month will see three new sets from 1971 added to the Crusty TV collection.

Today saw a 1971 Ferguson 3710 (3500) arrive.

Next weekend I collect the 1971 Ferguson 3712 (8000) from Manchester.

Last but not least and hopefully the same weekend, a rather nice 1971 20" Bush CTV 1120 (A823) arriving from Gary.

More on all these sets later and repair threads for all may follow in due course or I may just do repair blogs, we shall see. For now to whet the appetites of those mildly interested, I've added a blog report for the 1971 Ferguson 3710, you can follow updates on that set as and when they happen on there.

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Topic starter Posted : 27/07/2018 11:54 am
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I'm not mildly, but wildly interested.....can't wait, especially for the Bush A823.   ?

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Posted : 27/07/2018 4:27 pm
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The 1120 was released around june 72 according to my service skill books.

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Posted : 28/07/2018 12:34 am
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Where do you put all these sets, Chris? You must live in a mansion. Or live in a shed and use your mansion for storing all your TVs. 🙂

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Posted : 29/07/2018 6:29 pm
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Hi Mike,

I must admit sometimes I question my sanity at collecting Colour TV, they do so very quickly gobble up space, especially 1st gen consoles. Still that's something I'm sure you're all too familiar with having a vast collection of your own.

It has now got to the point where very little more can be added, I've enough to keep me out of mischief for quite some considerable time but every now and then something crops up and proves too hard to resist. I do have plans to construct an extension to the workshop which will take on the guise of a working TV repair shop with showroom, but that's got to wait until funds permit.

P.s.

Very nice to have you back with us, hope you drop by from time to time to say hi as your contributions are always most welcome.

Chris

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Topic starter Posted : 29/07/2018 9:45 pm
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Thanks Chris. I've not really been posting much on the other forum either it truth be told. 🙂

As for space (and sanity) issues I certainly am, as you say, very aware of these. I've actually been thinning my collection down quite substantially over the last few years as I was in danger of ending up in a lunatic asylum if I didn't! I'm now getting so much better at turning down stuff when it comes along and giving sets away to good homes if I know people will appreciate them. As you know, they always go round and round in our big TV-family and end up coming back anyway. 🙂

A big workshop-showroom extension sounds like a very good idea to me.

 Thanks Chris.

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Posted by: Chris

every now and then something crops up and proves too hard to resist.

That has a very familiar ring to it.....   "Guilty, your honour"   ?

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Posted : 29/07/2018 10:28 pm
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Posted by: Chris
every now and then something crops up and proves too hard to resist

Oh how my words above were proved so true!

I've just maxed out on the last available space by today adding two hybrid TV's that will be collected this coming Monday. Coupled with the first three and now these additional two, that makes five tellys this month and all my space gone!

The first of these additional sets is a Keracolour with a Decca Bradford chassis. The final set being the 1st gen 1968-1969 hybrid from Beovision, the 3000. Yep the one with two pl500 line output bottles, a hugely complex chassis.

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Topic starter Posted : 31/07/2018 10:47 pm
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The first of these additional sets is a Keracolour with a Decca Bradford chassis. The final set being the 1st gen 1968-1969 hybrid from Beovision, the 3000. Yep the one with two pl500 line output bottles, a hugely complex chassis.

Oh, I am proper jealous now!

Await the thread with interest.

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Posted : 31/07/2018 10:51 pm
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What I would dearly liked to have added to my final spare space collection slots, would have been an American "Roundy" like a Zenith or an RCA colour TV from the early to mid 60's. Like the ones I catalogued here. I looked into this as my brother lives in the States but shipping and import made it just ridiculous let alone the chances of damage in transit being too great. I would also have liked to have found an early experimental 405 ntsc colour or early 625 PAL experimental TV but the chances of finding one of these now? Well its just not going to happen.

With the arrival of the 3712 this weekend, my Thorn chassis collection is pretty much complete, granted its missing the 4000 but they went the way of the dodo and I probably should find a 9800. The rest of the collection covers my area of interest, 1967-1977 first gen dual std colour, early single std color with a few special interests like the SABA, Aphelion Telefunken and now the Beovision 3000SJ. I would possibly like to find a TFK 711, Tandberg or maybe korting but something would need to go in order to make room. That's not too hard as I do have too many Thorn 3000's and 3500's (they are my weakness and my favourite chassis to work on.) so one or two of those can go to make way should something interesting crop up in the future.

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Topic starter Posted : 31/07/2018 11:16 pm
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Certainly I think you should try and get one of the "German gold rush" sets, where demand exceeded supply in the UK - so yes, a Tfk. 711, a Körting or even an ASA. That would give a good record of colour TV in its early years in the UK.

As for the other stuff? Never say never...

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Beovision 3000 excellent, so you won't need central heating anymore or was it an exaggeration? 12HG7 luminance output was difficult or impossible to obtain but I don't think that's the case anymore.

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Beovision 3000 excellent, so you won't need central heating anymore or was it an exaggeration?

Probably less or the same as my G25K502 that's got 21 valves compared to the 18 in the Beo 3000

I'm trying to find data for the Beo 3000, I've got the 1970 R&TS data but its sparse to say the least but it will have to do until something better turns up.

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I've always fancied a nice Philips K70, but not many around now....like most of these set's of course.

Certainly looking forward to the B&O restoration, it should be capable of excellent results.

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Posted : 01/08/2018 5:16 pm
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From what I remember of my 3200, the set was pretty much built to professional standards (e.g. separate EHT generator, proper clamps) but just happened to have a receiver section nailed on. The 3000 I expect is probably compromise-free too.

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Posted : 01/08/2018 5:25 pm
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Hi Chris,

I thought I was going to be able to help you with a manual , but mine is the 3400/32xx and not the 3000. I think I have a bulletin for a couple of mods to the 3000 somewhere though. I will upload for you if I find it.

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Langrex have some 12HG7s.

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Posted : 01/08/2018 6:00 pm
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There are pictures of the Beovision 3000SJ on Marcel's site here:

http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/photoalbum58.html

but no doubt Chris will be posting his own.

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There was a Beo 3000 on eBay recently. I resisted, despite it being on my wish list, I just don't have the space. It didn't fetch much either.

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Posted : 02/08/2018 10:37 am
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I'm an idiot! Sometimes I forget exactly what data I have got.

I had the service data all along for the Beovision 3000. Circuit descriptions, plan views circuit diagrams and waveforms all provided courtesy of G.J.King  ?

Its scanned and now available in the site data library, new section under television, "Beovision".

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