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A solid state/electromechanical replacement for magic eye tuning indicators

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Katie Bush
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Here's an interesting video, exploring the possibility of a substitute for EM34 style tuning indicator valves.

 
Posted : 21/12/2020 6:30 pm
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Interesting idea but I think I prefer the all electronic version (rather like the EMI system over Baird)!

Solid State Replacement for 6U5 & 6E5 Magic Eye Tubes (electronbunker.ca)

 
Posted : 21/12/2020 10:11 pm
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That's really clever but I would have thought it would be simpler to have a series of segment type LEDs arranged in a circle, covered by some kind of diffuser. Totally electronic, like EMI!

 
Posted : 23/12/2020 9:49 pm
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interesting idea, looks rather complicated to me though! When it said about electro-mechanical magic eye tubes I thought maybe it would have something like a little meter movement with a pointer made to cast a shadow in front of an led, something I might try myself! I’ve got an R1155 radio here that could do with a new magic eye, maybe time for some experimentation, when I’ve cleared a few other projects out of the way.

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Lloyd 

 
Posted : 25/12/2020 11:23 am
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@lloyd

The one eye I don't think is in terribly short supply is the VI103, they're just expensive.

Now, if we were talking the pre-war Ferranti magic eye (the VFT4) with an IO base and a 4V heater...

 
Posted : 25/12/2020 11:39 am
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Just come across this via the eevblog forum and thought I'd put it here in case anyone is really really desperate.

https://retronics.no/2024/08/29/diy-digital-6u5-magic-eye-replacement/

 
Posted : 04/01/2025 7:08 pm
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Why bother? 6U5s are not exactly rare...

 
Posted : 04/01/2025 7:31 pm
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It is interesting to see how different people approach this problem. There was an article in the BVWS magazine along the same lines. The author suggested using a solid state version on often used radios to preserve the remaining originals that still function. Which I think is sensible. One day no working ones will remain, Anything that prevents test equipment and radios being robbed of a working eye has to be a good idea.

I was gifted a very nice Ekco radio that had been purchased because it had a good eye, the chap had robbed it as it was a cheap way of getting a known good eye for his Pye tuner.  Luckily he saved the rest of the set, some may have just scrapped it.... 

 
Posted : 05/01/2025 11:16 am
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@slidertogrid I think I have an example of that Pye tuner - it's basically a very cut-down Pye FenMan II. There'd be a certain poetic justice in robbing it of its magic eye to go into a radio...

 
Posted : 05/01/2025 11:34 am
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Posted by: @slidertogrid
Anything that prevents test equipment and radios being robbed of a working eye has to be a good idea.

Well, they're already being robbed for three electrode valves and even energised speakers to satiate the southern hemisphere's audio fanatics...

 
Posted : 05/01/2025 11:37 am
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