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19Seventie
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Hi all

I've been contemplating for a while now putting some shelves up on a wall to store the majority of my TV sets, but I have several that I want to put up, so need a very robust method. I've been thinking of heavy-duty upright tracking and brackets. I can't have them as floor standing shelves as I have several floor-standing sets that I want to put underneath the shelves to maximise space. The wall is brick, either your usual 'red brick' arrangement or breeze blocks. The two heaviest sets going on shelves will be my two 20" colour sets, both around 50lb I'd imagine. These will be on separate shelves to try and ease the load a bit. 

I've taken inspiration from the photo attached below; however, I will have continuous shelving, rather than the shop displays 'stepped' arrangement. 

To the point now! Has anyone here done this? If so, has anyone got any tips, tricks and other suggestions? Of course, the safety of these sets is paramount to me, I want them to be as secure and safe as possible. With the majority of the weight at the front of the shelves, I know it won't be easy. I've had some recommendations on using a special bolt headed screw with (and I quote) "a metal cone inside that expands as you tighten the screw, giving better grip than a Rawl plug"

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Posted : 13/09/2022 6:53 pm
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I know you say you don't want them floor standing, but it is by far the safest way, I made my own shelving for my workshop, from fairly cheap CLS timber, it's strong stuff, and has lasted since 2005! The shelves are simply 3 lengths, which sit on a small length running front to back, that is then screwed to the 2 upright lengths. there is room under for floor standing sets. I'll have a look for some pictures in a bit!

I have also used the twin slot shelving, mostly for smaller sets and radio's, so long as its well fixed to a solid wall it can hold a lot of weight.

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Lloyd

 
Posted : 13/09/2022 7:51 pm
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Posted by: @19seventie

"a metal cone inside that expands as you tighten the screw, giving better grip than a Rawl plug"

That's called a Rawlbolt. Be careful with these as they can easily split breeze blocks when tightened up.

To be honest, you will definitely need some front support and a colour TV weighs an awful lot more than 50 lbs.

 
Posted : 13/09/2022 7:52 pm
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It looks like they are using original Spur shelving in your photo and this, providing it's strong enough and fixed at several points along the uprights properly to the wall, should be ok.

Here is an example photo, but the shelves would need to be deeper....

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However, with regular shelving and brackets, some form of front support will be needed as Cathovisor mentions above.

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Posted : 13/09/2022 8:02 pm
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'Spur' shelving is phenomenally strong - it's been in service here for nearly forty years without issue, save for the Rawlbolts splitting the lightweight blocks on an interior wall. The internal walls that are part of the house's cavity walls are concrete block, so stronger. In my case the shelving uprights rested on the skirting board and were attached at the very top with a Rawlbolt, but the rest were all No. 12 woodscrews of something like 2" in length.

 
Posted : 13/09/2022 8:29 pm
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@lloyd Ideally I'd like to have floor supports, but I don't think my array of sets would allow for this very well, I could of course fit the supports between sets, but I seem to have chosen an awkward array of sets and can see them very easily getting in the way, but I'll never say never, it's definitely something I can take into consideration at the time. A photo of your set up, if you can, would be great for some brainstorming!

@Cathovisor I'll keep those Rawl bolts in mind, but I work in the perfect place to find out if they're suitable candidates or not, as I work in my town's museum! I have access to all of the building plans of each and every house style in town, I should definitely be able to find out what the general construction is. I'm fairly confident it's solid 'red bricks' judging by the walls in the loft, as there are some breezeblocks walls that go up into the loft too, my selected wall not being one of those, but of course that can't be taken as truth.

@Pye625 That's dead on the sort of thing I was imagining! Those plugs would be very handy too, but I'm not pushing my luck! I'm happy to put as many of the upright sections up as needed for extra strength, as after all, they'll hardly be noticeable. I was planning to use two (maybe three) long continuous planks on each shelf, one in front of the other to create a surface (I doubt I'll find any planks that'll be long enough and deep enough to do fit seamlessly), to try and spread the load across all brackets and uprights as much as possible. 

@Cathovisor Having just spoken with my dad, we both think that the blocks would be concrete blocks rather than breeze blocks as it's technically an exterior wall, with the house next door being lowered due to a slope in the landscaping, of course construction may have changed from my room wall up to my loft wall, so will check at work to make sure! I like the idea of resting the uprights on the skirting board too, will definitely do this if the spurs shelving goes ahead. 

Thanks all for your comments so far, it's really appreciated and has and will be really useful in the 'design' stages!

Thanks again
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Posted : 13/09/2022 9:14 pm
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Spur shelving! That’s what it’s called!

right, photos as promised!

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first photo, my home made CLS timber shelving just after my new shed was completed. It’s not totally free standing, for stability it is fixed to the wall near the top, and also spaced off the wall so large sets don’t hang off the front of the shelf, mine are spaced 18” from wall to front of shelf.

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second photo of them all in place and loaded up. There are a couple of extra supports near the half way point.

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last photo, this was the twin slot or spur shelving in my old workshop, which I bought with me into the new workshop (you can see it going up in the first photo!). It’s good stuff, just make sure it’s very well fixed to the wall! If your walls were plasterboard, I’d say don’t bother.. I also used this stuff in my bedroom, with some very long wall fixings, about 6” long into brick, they were long screw/ bolt things with long grey plastic wall plugs, came in a box of 10 from B&Q, they haven’t fallen down yet! And there’s a very heavy slate clock on one of them!

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Lloyd 

 
Posted : 13/09/2022 9:39 pm
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This is my current floor-standing setup, these shelves were from Screwfix. Originally they were £25 each back in 2021 but I've just looked at them now and the price is £60! 😱

I certainly wouldn't trust the walls of this house to support heavy-duty shelving.

 
Posted : 14/09/2022 2:21 pm
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@lloyd What a collection! Some lovely sets there

That shelving looks very handy too, however I'm not sure I'd be able to do floor supports like that, just because of my spacing. If I did, they'd have to be very, very thin! I'm working in a very strict space limitation unfortunately, but yours looks great

Luckily, we've solid walls all over, except the one wall that was accidentally knocked down! Fortunately, that's not the wall I want to use, not that I would though. 

@WayneD I actually have very similar shelves myself and would continue to use them if they offered enough space, and annoyingly I can't fit two side by side, I'm out by a couple of inches, getting two the next size down would then annoyingly be too small, even side by side, and with that I won't be able to put all the sets I wish to up

Beautiful sets too, that's a lovely rediffusion set you have too, I've got a MK7 which I've restored with a small niggling fault left. I've not been able to work on it due to it's size and construction at the moment, one day soon though hopefully!

As an aside, I was wondering if having three separate sets of uprights for each shelf would be better than continuous ones from the skirting board straight up to the ceiling? I could see it being better as the same amount of weight would be spread out between 9-12 (probably 12) rails rather than 3 or 4 larger ones? What are peoples' thoughts?

Thanks
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Posted : 14/09/2022 8:25 pm
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I was in Wickes today, being thwarted by a lack of castors 😦 but my eyes did alight on some shelving uprights in the manner of Spur. What caught my eye was the colour: they called it "antique copper" but to me it was "Florentine Bronze" - perfect if you have pre and post war radio sets.

 
Posted : 16/09/2022 6:05 pm
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In my searches online I came across some brown ones, I thought they'd be perfect for my room, which is somewhat 70s, and most of my sets are 70s/early 80s. I suppose having them in different colours make them slightly less of an eyesore! 

Will have to see if i can take a trip down to Wickes soon and have a look

 
Posted : 18/09/2022 3:31 am
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@19seventie The ones in my "radio room" are brown and the genuine "Spur" article.

 
Posted : 18/09/2022 7:47 pm
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I think I'll go for brown ones, much less boring than white and would look more the part, that's if I can find any in the right sizes

 
Posted : 18/09/2022 11:35 pm
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@19seventie Might be worth talking to Spur direct:

https://spurshelving.co.uk/s.aspx

 
Posted : 18/09/2022 11:39 pm
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I did have a look on their site and saw black or white ones, but no brown unfortunately. I'll get in contact with them though just in case they do offer other colours as well

Thanks!

 
Posted : 18/09/2022 11:49 pm
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