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Posted by: @synchrodyneThe FRG-7 was joined by the FRG-7700 in 1977.
That should have read:
"The FRG-7 was joined by the FRG-7000 in 1977.
Cheers,
Steve
I gather that the Wadley converter architecture is somewhat prone to increasing spurios with decreasing input signal frequency, so perhaps Yaesu found it necessary to clean up the second injection strip beyond the FRG7's capability- an off-the-shelf consumer FM IF filter would have given good enough out-of-band rejection whilst having sufficient bandwidth to accomodate 1st LO drift at low cost. The RA17's coverage was only down to 500kHz, and it had famously/notoriously complex filters in 1st IF and second injection strips in order to minimize spurii. Racal's solution to LF coverage was an outboard 15-980kHz converter that switched off preselector and Wadley converter HT and used the final 2-3MHz IF with a reversed tuning scale. With the FRG7000 amounting to a "Gran Turismo" edition of the FRG7, perhaps the designers felt that extended coverage was necessary as an additional bullet-point as well as the digital frequency and clock/timer displays, requiring additional converter filtering.
Posted by: @turretslugRacal's solution to LF coverage was an outboard 15-980kHz converter that switched off preselector and Wadley converter HT and used the final 2-3MHz IF with a reversed tuning scale.
That was a bit misleading- the 2-3MHz IF stage of the RA17 isn't the final IF, rather it's the "kHz tune" 2nd IF prior to the 100kHz 3rd and final IF.
ISTR that Plessey's PR155, a solid-state Wadley converter receiver, was described as having 60kHz to 30MHz coverage (I have also seen other figures such as 100kHz quoted, this might reflect the use of a broadband or low-pass below some frequency front end where minimum useful frequency can become something of a moveable feast). Plessey professional receivers seem to have been an unassuming but respected bunch, so it would be interesting to search the circuit and see what was going on.
The additional 250-500kHz preselector range of the FRG7000 over the FRG7 doesn't immediately come across as a particularly mouth-watering bonus, missing most of the LW broadcasting band. Admittedly, most sales would have been outside Region 1 anyway, but the aeronautical NDBs and limited maritime traffic covered by this additional preselector band must have had restricted, even niche appeal- I think the era of the FRG7000 was before the relevant amateur LF allocation, though I stand to be corrected.
Thanks for that explanation (and reminder of the previous post) regarding the Plessey PR155, it sounds to have taken quite a sophisticated and forward-looking approach for the time. I often hear of people talking of double- (and multiple-) conversion as if it were an unequivocally good thing, but I've long thought that it brings a list of considerable pitfalls with it, including having the main selectivity further down the chain of active devices and the presence of additional oscillators and mixing processes multiplying the odds of spurious responses. Looking at the block diagram of the RA17 provokes the thought "They were lucky to get away with that...." but I gather that considerable development was involved, including the afore-mentioned filters and a strategic saw-cut across a prototype chassis to suppress a prominent spurious response. The Plessey designers evidently felt that keeping too much mixing out of the signal path was wise, commensurate with getting as much selectivity as possible as early as possible.
Yes, the choice of IFs in broad-coverage receivers must be the source of a fair amount of head-scratching and choice of best-fit compromises, with market-position budget also looming. Sometime, I must sit down with pencil, paper and clear head and pan out the maths involved in the relatively modest case of the FRG-100 here, which none-the-less offers considerable synthesis flexibility.
Colin
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