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VCR Nordmende V100

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WayneD
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Picked up this somewhat unusual Nordmende V100 VHS recorder a couple of weeks ago. 

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I assumed that it was your standard JVC/Ferguson clone but I'm not 100% sure. 

 
Posted : 11/10/2022 9:45 pm
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Seems to be a “Bitsa”. It has no Dolby like the 3V29 but has the multi event timer of the 3V30. 

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Posted : 12/10/2022 6:57 am
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A lot of these VCRs seemed to turn up on the used market in the mid nineties I can remember they were 3V29s and 3V35s and the mechanical parts from these Thorn VCRs would fit, there may have been circuit differences but I can't remember any electronic faults.

 
Posted : 12/10/2022 9:57 am
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Front panel looks very similar to the ITT VR3919.

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Posted : 12/10/2022 2:04 pm
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Looks like the TR-3913

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Posted : 12/10/2022 4:03 pm
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@crustytv AHA! Yes, the buttons are in exactly the same place. Some cosmetic styling differences but that's about it.

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Posted : 12/10/2022 4:48 pm
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Hi Chris, your right, it was the VR3913. 

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Posted : 12/10/2022 9:02 pm
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Finally got a chance to look inside and apply power. Man, this VCR has been well "got at" although of the three JVC/Ferguson top loaders I have this is the only one that has intact belts:

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It might've worked had it not been for the dew sensor that seems to have developed a fault:

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The tape sensor bulb has been replaced in a somewhat bizarre way: 

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The bulb seems to be dead but I'm not sure if that's more to do with the dew sensor problem.

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Everything seems present and correct, if a little dusty.

I might put this one on the back burner as I've just been examining the JVC HR-7350EK and it's in amazingly good condition so I'll probably divert all my efforts to this one for now.

 
Posted : 18/10/2022 5:27 pm
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Looks like someone has previously fitted a cassette lamp for the piano key models which were wire ended. Due to the unreliability of the cassette lamp bulb a UV LED kit was brought out, this needed a resistor change to the mechacon to work correctly.

Dew sensor fault? I can't say I've seen any of this range with a dew sensor fitted, the lower drum assembly did have a heater attached to it at the rear though.

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Posted : 18/10/2022 8:06 pm
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@jayceebee this little symbol is flashing constantly on the clock. It looks like a dew indicator?

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 I could be wrong though. Is it telling me the bulb has blown on the tape sensor? Whatever it is, the mechanism refuses to do anything.

 
Posted : 18/10/2022 8:45 pm
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You could be right, maybe there was one fitted on continental models but I don't see one in your pictures. Something in the back of my mind says that symbol or something like it may have been on the 3V29 to say the clock wasn't set? As for the non functioning mechanics, the machine won't do anything at all if the lamp is o/c.

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Posted : 18/10/2022 8:56 pm
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John's encyclopedic knowledge about his time in the trade is second to none.

I have the manufacturer's service manual ( it's big! ) for the 3V29 for when I get around to repairing mine. In there it shows that indicator lamp as John rightly recalled, and yes it's not a dew indicator but the clock timer.

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Posted : 19/10/2022 6:51 am
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@crustytv Thanks for that. Interestingly I’ve only ever seen a handful of 3V29s, the 3V30 and it’s rental cousin the 8930 I repaired in huge numbers but that little oddity was stuck in the back of my mind. This also means I was incorrect about the V100 timer, it obviously has the single event timer rather than the eight event type.

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Posted : 19/10/2022 9:18 am
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I think I had a Sharp VHS-C camcorder which had a dew indicator that looked like this symbol, which may have confused me 🤯

Single event timer though? Interesting.

 
Posted : 19/10/2022 8:53 pm
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Bit of an accidental repair today!

I'd been unable to get the reel motor to work on this Nordemende so I'd but it on the back burner and thought I'd try and get this Ferguson 3v30 working instead.

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However the Ferguson was having none of it, I borrowed the Mechacon panel from the Nordemende to see if that would help things but nope. Feeling a bit deflated at this point I put the Ferguson's Mechacon board into the Nordemende:

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And suddenly it's all working! I was hoping the stop button had fallen inside the front panel but unfortunately not. Instead I removed the audio dub button and put it in place of the stop button for now.

However, I think the head drum on this Nordemende is really worn, the whole machine clearly has hundreds of hours on it. I'm pondering whether or not to make one good machine from the two, the Ferguson seems to be in much better condition cosmetically and at least I can swap the main panels between the two machines. Hmm... 🤔

 
Posted : 10/11/2022 6:02 pm
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Well I figured I had nothing to lose and dropped the head drum into some isopropyl alcohol and...

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Yeah! Despite having really given the head drum and tape path a really good clean it seems it wasn't enough to get it completely clean.

 
Posted : 14/11/2022 3:39 pm
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Heads can become almost irretrievably clogged by the glue at the end of the tape that sticks the leader on. Some VCRs will automatically advance the tape when loading a tape and finding it's fully rewound to a point after the leader so that this join never touches the tape path.

That VCR looks a lot like a JVC HR7200. JVC were very aggressive with their OEM (badge engineering) operations.

 
Posted : 15/11/2022 7:44 am
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@irob2345 Aha! I've been having problems with another machine, a JVC HR7350 which seems to get dirty heads whenever it plays a tape from the beginning. This would explain it. 

Yes, it's clearly a JVC HR7200 or Ferguson 3v29. 

 
Posted : 15/11/2022 5:03 pm
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Yes that extra click - whirr - click - whirr double-shuffle appeared mainly in later VHS VCRS.

Unlike Beta, most VHS machines did not do a partial load and left the tape fully in the cassette for FF and REW. There were exceptions of course, mainly later machines that had real-time tape counters that read the sync track off the tape. But the tape still didn't touch the video heads.

In the 1980s, many schools used HR7200s alongside Umatics in the remote controlled library play-out systems we made. They were very popular, we sold thousands of them. They took the tapes out of the classroom but still allowed the teacher to control them. A good librarian would always do a short FF on these machines after loading the tape.

Later VCRs also had auto head cleaners that would give the heads a quick swipe during the M-load. Seen any of those?

 
Posted : 16/11/2022 3:33 am
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@irob2345 yeah, that little sponge thing. What I'm finding with those now is the sponge has degraded and is starting to damage the head drum, especially on the 14" TV/VCR combi units made by Orion but branded as everything from Goodmans, Alba, Bush, Matsui, etc

The leadertape/glue didn't seem to be a major problem back in the day but I suppose the early machines were serviced regularly and also most of my tapes are 30+ years old now.

 
Posted : 17/11/2022 5:22 pm
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